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  MSNBC    The Rachel Maddow Show    News/Business.  (2012)  

    September 26, 2012
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jobs. and they know that it's not about republican or democrat. it's who stood with them at crunch time. and i was with them. >> joe donnelly, good to have athee how. i'm ed shultz. the "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, thank you. ooers the newest data on the state of the election in two of the swingiest of the swi states. oh alo, daut y. "the washington post" putting out new numbers showing president obama ahead by eight points in iowa and four points in florida. while the swg state map is what everybody is watching the swing states are the most importt to keep ye on bee 'sre wup the votes that allow you to win the election, there's new national polling now for what it's worth. there's new polling every day. the republican leaning poll is out with their new national numbers today.
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thnaalckpoll putting president obama up by one point nationally. the gallup tracking poll putting president obama up by three points today nationally. th ibig cture perspective of what's going on in the presidential race. for an even bigger picture perspective on those national numbers, i should point out to you that of the last 20 national presidential polls, of the 20 national polls taken in the month of september, every single one of those it 20 polls shows president obama winning nationally. the range varies from one point up to eight points in some other polls. but 20 straight national polls showing president obama ahead. that's what you ll a trend. now whether or not that trend is depressing to republicans or whether it fires them up to try to do bett for their candidate, honestly the wisdom
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is that one of the most consequential thingshat can ppen because of polling like this one of the the things that polling can cause is that it can have a fatal affect on fundraising. it's interesting. politico.com h a big picture review of the romney campaign struggles. it included this piece ever since they published it. quote, to get a flavor of the challenge before them, one top donor said that after mitt romney spoke at a fundraising breakfast on friday, a will-mitt win poll was taken at a table of ten men who paid to attend that fundraiser. so at their table of ten m, they asked each other, will mitt win? of the ten men, not a single man said yes.
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of ten active mitt romney supporters who were actively supporting him at that moment with their money, zero said he will win. and they admit to that at the fundraiser. that's not a phenomenon that can last a super long time. you don't get to sit around at $2500 a plate fundraisers in lg out how guy is eventually you're going to stop going to those fundraisers. you will stop throwing good money after bad. luckily for the romney campaign, there is a solution to this tential problem that can be causedy poing. this potential fundraising campaign death spiral. there's a way around it. a new argument emerged about the polling that says that mitt romney is losing the race and losing badly in the new polls, yes, but the new argument on the right is that the polls are all wrong. mathematically. even the fox news poll. they are all unfrly skewed to make it look like obama is winning when, in fact, that's
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not the case. the new argument on the right is that if you reconfigure all of the mainream pollso sserthonooma tbe like ts anymore with 20 straight polls for obama. instead they look like this. hey, yeah, that's way better. mitt romney is actually winning all of the recent polls that you thought president obama was winning. the guy who did this it neat trick, the unskewing of the polling so mitt romney wins in every one instead of losing in every one, that guy explained his methodology to the folks at buzz feed saying he created is new romney-always-wins polling site, quote, after reading a "washington post" poll that just didn't look right noting that the polling had sampled more democrats than republicans. sampling more democrats th republicans. hm, that sounds like a reasonable argument.
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everybody might have reason to be suspicious of the polls showing president obama leading if, in fact, pollsters are systemically oversampling democrats when doing their polling. that's not what pollsters are doing. they are n going out and inr maemts for their polls in order to fill some quota to get the liberal result they want. pollsters polling the swing states are finding more people calling themselves democrats in those swing states because there emes democrats in the swing states. it's not a biassed look at the states. it's a look at the states that show the states have a democratic bias. that's why president obama is winning there. the electorates are leaning democrat. just to create a whole new fantasy electorate to replace the real electorate because you don't like what the real
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elraeeoitoo. trying to turn the polls themselves into a controversy. i was amazed when this happened. source of conservative being a psychological comfort. it moved out of those corners of the internet to being the official line of the romney campaign itself. mid-afternoon today, the romney campaign started leaking news that they say their internal polling data doesn't really ha them losing ohio at all. they say, yes, yes, the polls show them losing ohio, but their internal romney polls show mr. romney specially tied in ohio. at least ty show romney inside the margin of error in ohio. but again, they are not releasinthis magicalnternal pollindata. they are saying that's what it says. kind of like the summary of mitt romney's tax returns. if it's true they have internal polling data doing great in
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ohio, just in the interest of their donors, shouldn't they release those numbers? this isn't a magic thing. i aypothetical thing. in a real poll, which we can see the data for, we can see not only that in ohio, president obama is up by eight, we c see why president obama is up by eight in ohio. that "washington post" poll out today has other data in it including the fact that 36% of all ohio voters say they have been contacted by the obama campaign. that contacted by the campaign number is seven points lower in terms of the romney caaign. the obama campaign is doing it better. they are tking to more voters in ohio. 'sindien the hill today reporting that it's not just ohio. the obama campaign has double the number of field staff as the romney campaign and in a number of key swing states, t obama folks have twice the number of field offices. "the l. tis" lked at the
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olmb they find the obama campaign is employing twice the number of staff as the the romney campaign last month at about the same cost. there are twice as many people u exude e $2,0hebama campaign if romney campaign paid out in bonuses to its campaign officials last month, the romney's payroll number was still roughly the me as president obama's even thoug president obama had double the number oboots on the ground. fewer romney staff but they get paid a lot more. there's a reason president obama is ahead in the last 20 national polls. there's a reason he's up by eight in the latest "washington post" poll in ohio. his campaign is doing more and whichever way you squint at the data, president obama is winning his effort at reelection. now is when you see the signs of desperation.
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there are two kinds of political desperatn. paoninveing a whole und dember new polling method whereby your guy wins all the time instead of losingll the time because even fox news is in on the conspiracy to make it look like obama is wiing, that's aboveground despation. at least it's happening in the light of day where everybody can see it. here's what's happening a little below the surface on the right. this is what underground political desperation looks like 41 days before the ection when the republican candidate is clearly losing. this is a web just been released by a conservative outside group accusing president obama of being in bed with the muslim brotherhood, which by the way, is trying to take over america. the group r this ad says it's part of a $7 million online ad y. ou crm nr because we couldn't believe it was that high.
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they assured us. this ad was part of a $7 million online ad buy. that's just in online distribution for this ad and a number of others like it. wl taet voters online. whether it turns up on tv remains to be seen. tv ads are not in the works, but they are talking to donors about that possibility. but honestly, we shall die as martyrs, wr. president? this kind of stuff usually functions better in thshows iesthgh-profile settings where it can be scrutinized more widely. another place for underground attacks associated with a lot of money is from our old friend ralph reid. "the new york times" reporting that reid and his faith and freedom coalition is set to pour $12 million into their campaign
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this year. k gisdswh he was spending his money on. it's labeled as a 2012 voter registration confirmation survey. question one do rba o's overall performance as president so far? here are your choices. excellent, good, fair, poor, abysmal, undecided, or i consider him an enemy of liberty and the values that built our grna. a couple questions, there's an issue summary that you have to read. it's the statement of facts before you get to answer your question. here's the issue summary. the statement of facts. the anti-american communist dictator hugo chavez calls barack obama comrade obama and believes president obama is to
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the left of himself and fidel castro. that's the issue summary. these are ththe facts. now the question. when fidel castro hailed the passage of obamacare as a mirae, du k i us is honestly concerned with the well-being of americans or is it more likely that cast sees obama care as the fastest way to bringocialism to america? what do you think? beisasesofdo y thi president obama's policies, actions and agenda for america's future? it's how much. you ha to quantify thi it cld bl he moer tthrewe faced in world war ii from nazi germany and the japanese because the attack on liberty today is from our own government. that one choice. or, more serious than the threat we face from the soviet union during the cold war.
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or a of e e. orio but not as serious as the threats to liberty listed above. for all the communist pollsters, that's one of the choices. you were asked if you will pl r nn sy to vote on november 6th if you are physically able to do so. you have to fill in the bubble saying you're swearing to do it and you have to sign your name therto verify your pledge. and also please send ralph reed some money. yenurt emergency freedom saving donation right now? ralph reed is going to spend $12 million this election cycle. that's a lot of postage for hilarious polls. i'rephd el doing well in terms of the cut he's taking for this surveying that he's doing, but $12 million
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even minus the considerable fee, that's got to be a lot of money. that's a lot of comparing present obama to hitler d please sn he if u understand it. and $7 million on the obama is inviting the muslim brotherhood to destroy america ad campaign? that's a lot of money, but this is what the campaign is going to start to look like from here on out. when the campaign gets tough, the campaigning gets weird and nastand dlst joining us is a distinguished senior fellow, bob, thank you for being here. a difficult survey, right? >> that's a great survey. >> my favorite part your am, ovall how abysmalresint performance. after you get to abysmal, there's still lower choices for you. so underground tacti like this. th isn quite theacist campaign flier under t windlderthur
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parking lot, but it's the digital age version of that. how do you know whether or not this stuff is going to work? >> the the first thing you need to to know about the gop is this is a party that needs professional counselng. they d bieveevutio they don't believe the president was born in this country. they don't believe the polls now. so now they are running these weird ads. but they are in fantasy land. they are going back to an er when these kinds of ads could but it's the same old thing. it's presenting the candidate, the democratic candidate as the other. they think it's easier now because barack obama is african-american. so they present him as the otooheerg reriend of the muslim is that he's black. but the country has changed. it's not the same.
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so they are out of touch with what's going on in the country. d se pemy is the demographic issue. the country has chand in terms of the makeup of the population. you know, we don't know what's going to happen with this election. it could still go either way. but if the republican party doesn't change itsessage and straes is wh message, it's doomed because it can no longer function in what the united states has become. >> that issue about the legiticy of the president and ngotze, i und myself in reading the right-wing arguments, it's not just stuff from the blog world. it's definitely relatively respected republican pollsters starting to get on board. it made me start to think about let's sathe election goes the thlly g t go.
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aren't they laying the groundwork to say he stole the election? that his election is illegitimate? whether or not you think he's foreign, he couldn possibly be a legitimate presint for a second term. >>y negoto acleheegitimately president. he can serve the full eight years. they are not going to acknowledge was legitimate. but the question becomes, can it remain viable as a party? puanvemeheroem that the polls come after the fact. the polls are a reflection of what's going on in the united states. the real problem that the republicans have in this campaign is, they have a terrible candidate. mitt romney is not a good candidate. bupoteiallevenigge problem is that the electorate does not seem to be buying what the republicans are offering. when romney picked ryan as vice president, i said my wife, i think romney may have lost the
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election here. the asonaiat because by picking paul ryan, it opened up that argument of the republican party as extreme and the democrats just pounced on that as you would expect them to do. and the country does not want those extreme ascts of the ghngicican party, those extreme they do realize that's what got us into this trouble both overseas with the war in iraq and also with the economy. and ey are not going for it anymore. the republic no longer believes asd in fieis to help middle to give more money to the rich. so i thought that mitt romney would pivot the middle. he decided not to do that. >> i feel like the country republicans people in the middle and on left want sentially giving a good fight. so we can have a big hashed out
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discussion about how to fix our problems. i'll be talking more about that later in the show about something that's been left out of the campaign. but i think ev the left is rooting for the republican par to gts the >> because we don't want one party. we want two viable parties. >> we want to benefit from somebody who is right winning a real debate. we're a long way off. thank you for being here. florida voters, i have something to tell you about your particular role in the election this year. in order to vote this year, you're going to have to read a slim novel of terrifying power. it's a short bk,ut it's book length. lllan me onk fruit, something this delicious uld only come from nature. now from the maker of splenda sweeteners, discover nectresse. the only 100% natural, no-caloe sweetener made from the goodness ofruit.
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c. tice.on you know that team right? we all call that team by its name all the time. do you ever think about that nickname? it's been well litigated. ie vant word for jewish people or chinese people or any other ethnically-defined group of people were used as a nickname? a lot of colleges including syracuse and stanford anmiam ohidecisoimo they would stop using words that mean native american as their sports mascots.
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but not the washington, d.c. pro football team. so we just live with it. al weird the republican race for senate in the great state of massacsett we reported here last night on how the highest profile senate race in the country between scott brown and elizabeth warren has turned into a flat out racial campaign with the republican incumbent rning against his challenger just straight up on the basis of race. everybody has been reporting on this campaign as if that fact about it is normal, but it's really not normal. it's not even normal in a country where we still have native american foball mascots. the brown campaign running on race got worse today. it's hard to believe, but it did. sto iea
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reelection campan ofcott brofsaets afraid of stunts. it's like an ann colter column. except it's a senate campaign. so for example, earlier this month the anniversary of occupy walstre, sct brn's affe wen a elizabeth warren event and tried to deliver this cake to her. get it it? elizabeth warren is like an occupy activist. so she gets a cake from scott brown. their stunt was ying to deliver this melting sheet cake. eyet picre of o havet themselves trying to pull off
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the stunt. there's a long history of people trying to provoke their opponents so they do something embarrassing or damaging. if they could have that reaction while someone is filming, that t at.tow i it's not run of the mill politics. it's not delivering an unappealing sheet cake to your opponent which you find hilarious. this is different. here's the context. at last week's debate between scott brown and elizabeth wa, tobrowght of the gate, before anything was discussed, first thing scott brown attacked elizabeth warren for being native american because he says, she looks white to him. heckedhe cin she was a native american. clearly, she's not. >> scott bwn is also a one-man racial litmus test.
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don't know if your great grandmotr was czech? k sct brn. anell t . he could count the number of white grandparents president obama had by looking at his jaw line or his posture or something. i mean what he's sayg here is 's aiveran. i mean, come on, look at her. and by the way, affirmative action, everybody freak out. >> i don't know and neither do the viewerknow whether in fact she got ahead as a result of that checking of the box. how would senatorrown know 'sex ir icahead? ancestry not on her career. that was on thursday. i can't understand why it didn't get more attention nationally. especial when the brown campaign followed it up with an ad repeating the same fake scandal, which is either that
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you should not vote for izabeth warren because she's native american or that scott brown thinks she looks too white to be native american. that's the choice for what they are saying what the scandal is. e beltway press is incapable of giving scott brown attention of any kind of any subject, but the fact he's running a race-based reelection campaign has not been clear enough, now it has to be getting too clear ignore. >> in between the time scott brown sa that elizabeth warren looked too white to him to be a real native american, and the time he released a campaign ad attacking her for being native american, this happened. this is a scott brown rally on saturday. what you're lookinat and hearing and recoiling from is
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five scott brown staffers and reblic par opeti chting fake war whoops that are supposed to sound native american-like. they are doing the move called the tomahawk chop to make fun of native americans. the abc affiliate in boston identifi the staers as the dety cefstaf s director for massachusetts, his special assistant and a massachusetts state republican party operative. he has his senate staff out there doing this. you pay their salary. this footage was originally posted by the blue mass group blog, but it's run throughout the boston media. he was asked about the tape. after turning down an offer to look at the footage, he says he doesn't condone this from his staff, but thesere his strs tis campaign for reelection. and this apparently is the 21st century.
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this is what voting looked like in florida. students waiting in line for three hours at the university of taa waiting so long they sat down in the hallway with their homework and at least they got to wait inside. at other polling places, voters wait outsiden the rain. this is the last sunday before the election in 2008. people waited through lines that stretched for three city blocks. some people brought towels to help others dry off enough to vote. they broht sandwiches and pizzas, anything to get people tove llian vote. that was for early voting. the lines were still long on election day. one guy showed up at 6:10 in the morning and found 48 people in line ahead of him. good morni. you're number 50. enjoy the wait atowwen . last time florida voted. this is what the ballot looked like in 2008 in tampa. it's four pages, two pieces of paper front and back. while the people were waiting in
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line, this ithe ballot they were waiting in line for the chance to fill out out eet ballot looks like this year? bigger and it's six pages on three pieces of paper. they call them cards for voting, but it's six pages. there are 15 referendum questions. thrented in full. these are not summaries. the ballot is 2500 words long. that's not even voting for people. we're talking 2500 words plus of just the other ballot questions that aret about candidates and who is running f predend seto lot is page. can you find the ballot question on this page? yes. at the bottom. you're supposed to mark at the bottom. and tampa's ballot, this ballot is aually quite shcomped toe heers.
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the ballot in miami-dade this year is ten pages, ten giant pages filled with tiny type. it's happening all over the state. the election supervisor in monroe county calls the ballot er monster. in pinellas county, the election supervisor says this is the longest ballot i can remember. the voter who sees this the first time may need smelling salts. the huge ballots take awhile to read and fill ou then you have to stand there and geere.t in. and even before this year's monster ballots, florida knows they have a problem with long lis to vote. with the monster ballots set to slow things down even further this year, what is the state of florida done to make sure everybody can get through tingines? theyavt y ting days. in 2008 hundreds of thousands voted early in florida. turn up in florida went up by 0,000 people.
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d th guy, the democratic nde for prident n florida and won the election. now that guy is on the ballot again this year. so they are not going to make the same mistake. who knows if it's connected, but florida's republican governor for this it electi cut the days for early voting almost in half. sterday a federal judge removed the last hurdle orids nelaw. itru florida voters are going to have fewer days this year when they can cast a ballot this big. even though the ballot they have to cast is totally, unprecedently giant. a new poll from the florida times union finds the president wi a sm le ovemitt ey ifla. the lead is built on support from african-american voters and hispanic voter who is are going for obama by 32 points. a new report from the nonpartisaadvancement project details legal changes put in place by republican state cifoisct chges at it will make it harder to vote in those states. voter purges and curtailing early voting and making it
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is it time to reconsider foreign aid to countries where many of the people don't want us around? >> how wld you apresident arabprindifferently? >> would you consider the current egyptian regime an ally of the united states? >> should the castro brothers rry about a romney presidency? >> what would you tell latino families looking at yoasking for reelection, what about us? >> what's your plan to reach latinos and why are you so far below president obama in preference?
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he is also host of the sunday morning public affairs show and he joins us night for the interview. welcome. it's nicto he you here. iiva drm byeing on your show. >> flattery will get you everywhere. congratulations on those interviews. i learned a lot from watching them. in his conversation with you, president ama predicted the republican party would need to make changes. they would be forced to reevaluate some things. do you think republicans are going to come to agree with that? >> they better. they better. let's talk about the hispanic community for a minute. 20 million could be eligible to vote. nombertes if a political party believes they can ignore, turn their back or not even deal with some of the the ma issues, a large group of voters really cares abt, if any political pay
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believes they can ju ie that issue, i was born in fort lauderdale, i have some land they can build high-rises on if they think they can ignore that population. evy month in the united states rnyeof.a, 50,000 latino kids 18 equals potential voters. and you know what? they are watching and they are listening to what political leaders are saying and doing and not doing. so you kno this is an importt issue th i think t id ynopof very specifically. they better realize both political parties better realize this is a force not going away and it's only going to get bigger, as big as 50,000 new potential vote every mon. >> i think the democrats take comfort in the margins that they have with latino voters nationwide looking broadly at
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that population. but every time you talk to republicans about it, they say, yeah, but it's a sleeping giant. there are 21 million people eligible to vote, t we are excton2 io them to turn out to vote. is there a key to unlocking latino voter enthusiasm and turn out in registration? >> ask sharon angle why she's not a senator in nevada. let's talk about enthusiasm thank y we continues to be the leader of the senate in this country and who helped him win reelection. and some say it wasn't as much harry reid winning reelection as sharon angle losing an electn where immigration wacenter of the discussion for many months. i've got to tell you something. the big issue that president obama needto worry about, and is worried about as far as the latino community is concerned, is that they will come out to vo. ne dbts e nuers.
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the nbc "wall street journal" poll every month shows, as a matter of fact, the gap increasing. more latinos are supporting obama than they are romney month after month after month. t notoned that th are gointo ce to vote for a number of reasons this coming november. >> in terms of what would move them? do you think it's policy or something about the way the campaigns are trying to goose that turn out? >> think policy has a lot to do with it. the deferred action to help maybe 1.5 million young kids that know no other country but this cntry that are willing to serve in the armed forces an give their life for this country, don't even speak the language from the country they were originally brout fr with no decision on their part, eir rentbrt i those kids, for example, are now being able to come out from under the shadows of fear and darknessn this country.
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even it's a two-year period, but it helps. these are thissues that are g avlo dth e eltion >> jose, i have been a long-time fan of yours. i hope you come back. it was great thave you. >> it's a pleasure to be with you. president obama addressed the united nations gener assembly here in new york toy, h lde ne sethi it did not do in our politics. that's next. t, something this delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker of splenda sweeteners, discover nectresse. thenl100% natural, no-calorie sweetene de from the goodss ofruit the rich, sweet taste of sugar. nothing artificial. ♪ it's all that sweet ev needs to be. new nectresse. sweetness naturally. si by de so you get the same coverage, often for less.
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>> here in thenited states, countless publications provoke offense. like me, the majority of americans are christian, and yet we do not ban blasphemy against our most sacred beliefs. i accept people are going to call me awful things every day. and i will always defend their ght to do so.
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>>est a ki today at the u.n. here in new york. one of the times on the presidential trail you get the advantage of the incumbency thing. speaking ahead of state, addressing other state, getting to talk about yourself as commander in chief although he was not campaigning, there's nothing like those optics for the guys who are running replace him. still they're ing what they automatic to be doing. paul ryan also in ohio this week. erthll president obama just the other day, he said on tv that i can't change washington from the inside. why do we send presidentto the estswagt, to n the first place? change washington?
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inatsi o s it's hard to change washington from the inside. mitt romney is on record saying the exact same thing on the presidential campaign trail, but apparently they want it to be a scandal. which of course is ridiculous. but i highlight that speech for the reason other than the hypocrisy of the dumb change in washington line. and the reason i highlight it is because paul ryan new stump sp iw aty branching out into foreign policy. kind of. >> i mean, turn on the tv and it remind you of 1979 tehran, but they're burning our flags in capitals all around the world. they're storming our embsies wee lo fou oipts and what is the signal that our government is sending the world. >> paul ryan wants to look like president obama one-term
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jimmy carter and romney would be cast as ronald reagan. but it's notable that he's even trying in a campaign that's been unwilling and unable to engage america in the larger world. he's finally trying to dit. in terms of what they're going to do, on even just say the issue of war we're in right now, they have really been unwilling to engage. fi , usly mr. s they'll start. romney didn't mention the war in afghanistan at all. he explained in speeches like that you don't go through a laundry list. you go through things that are important. the war wasn't important to him. but it's not just specifically afghanistan. yo itmney her o. website right now and you type the word drones into the search box on the website because you want to know his position. you will find three results. three. one result is mr. romney
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criticizing mr. obama after a drone crashed in iran. enre py r cricizing the obama administration for talking about drones to news outlets like "the new york times" and you have one for killing osama bin laden. if you want to know what his policy is, by using flying killer robots to do it, the answer is that he also thinks killing bin laden was a good idea. he wouldn't crash one in iran. any questions? s lthheyou realize that however important this presidential campaign is and this decision is, that we as a country have to make between these two candidates, our politics are essentially failing theye esntiaimnt for debating questions like this one. choosing between candidates is
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supposed to be the way we choose between policies in important thing that affect or country including national security. but our politics have been allowed to shrink if one side esn't nto tabo it, we're not going to debate it as a country. let people in washington figure it out. a new report out today says our secret drone policy, which we've been ilementing fothbetter part of a decade, may be radicalizing the ridents radical cotry. we're not going toebe th atll. 's aictt th bt some national discussion. no competing ideas about maybe a change in course. this is what the democratic president is doing. the republican par has no competing ideas onhis aat all? nothing to say? with this policy, due process that we afford people, that we kill people, the due process ultimately consists of the
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president of the unid states making the call. but we are in the process of picking who's going to be the next president and we're not asking where these two men stand on that issue or if they think they should ha that power. thapoweshouxi esons now. look at this week. you have president obama at the un talking about the policy of pakistan and hilla clinton meeting the president of pakistan on the same day. you have the developing story of the drone attack yesterday that killed a al qaeda leader. mp.ou ve asiia but the conversation when it comes to this stuff is he seems like jimmy carter. i read that he was a one-tm
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president once. really? that's all you've got. how about this. what would you do differently if atotan.is bro, we deserve a politics that is capable of giving us choices or setting up a debate about competing reasonable ideas about handling the controversial things the government does in r names. i know what the obama ghtarati pio o because he's the president. i have no idea what mitt romney would do different in afghanistan, if anything. i know what the obama's administration is on drones. i frankly find that position hair raising. i ow wt thobam administration's position is on pakistan. i know mitt romney thinks pakistan is very important. is it inconceivable somebody would ask him why, how, what his plan would be when it comes to